City Municipal Council Sites
There WERE 7 City Municipal Councils and one Town Municipal Council surrounding the Bangalore city. The sites in the limits of these authorities are mostly owned by private individuals, some of the sites are acquired by Government. Infrastructure is very poor. The process of tracing the title is very complicated. But some extra pre cautions need to be taken. Verify whether the betterment charges have been paid, if not purchaser may have to pay it in the future. Many lands in the area of these local bodies are agricultural lands and conversion to non-agricultural purpose must have to be done. Presently City Municipal Councils have stopped collecting betterment charges and issuing Khatas. If the owner doesn’t have a Khata, he cannot construct the house with the plan approved from CMC.
Site in private layouts
These are layout formed by private parties, other than statutory development authorities. Many reputed land developers have formed layouts around the city. Verify all the documents as required in case of private property for a period of 43 years. Apart, from the above check whether the land is converted for residential purpose, and the layouts are approved by BDA or BMRDA. Verify the records with respective offices. Many numbers of private layouts with D.C. conversion and panchayat approval are available. Purchase of these type of sites involves little risk.
Gramathana Sites
These are residential sites, which were originally available in village panchayat areas. They can be distinguished from Kaneshumari number, assigned to them. The agricultural lands have survey numbers. The sites of this nature are very few. Government has put restrictions on issue of license for construction by village panchayats beyond their approved Gramathana area, original Gramathana sites can be identified by examining old village survey maps available in survey department. Examine all the records as is done in case of private property. In addition verify the village records and form No. 9 and 10. Form No. 9 denotes Gramathana site and form No. 10 denotes the building, which confirm that the particular property is original Gramathana site or not. But many village panchayats issue from No. 9 & 10, though they are not Gramathana sites. Many such sites fall in green belt area, where construction of residential buildings is restricted. Extra caution is necessary while buying Gramathana Sites.
hi.. need help.. i and my wife are wanting to invest in a site that has all the docs ready but there is no BDA noc or DC conversion done..There is how ever, BBMP KATHA and uptodate tax paid reciepts.. can i buy this prop and also most importantly it is within the arakavathy layout…the bda does not clearly give me the ans i want to hear. ..they said that there is 1 acre that is not under BDA aqusition and if this site is within that area i can buy it… PLEASEEEEEE let me know how i can find that out…
Dear Mr.Madhoo,
The documents must be scrutinised and details regarding notification and de notifications(if any) should be examined before the purchase.
Tax payment does not entitle or ensure the proper conveyance.
The mother deed should be thoroughly examined and all the relevevant sketches, drawings or maps should be scrutinised to arrive at an opinion.
It is difficult to advise you without proper study and is not wise. The property might have clear titles, without proper examination, if a report is placed to you, would be wrong.
bye
mc
9342816151
9980866144
we are planning to buy an house in akshaya nagar… we have paid advance and taken the documents for review.as per our lawyer some of the documents are made fake.
our loan agent is tell Bkatha and plan is made only for loan approval purpose and these are not original.
we will be getting loan from some unrecognised bank….
now have to proceed further but in confusion sate. whether to go ahead or not.
please share your experince also.
and please help me ecopackindia team,
Dear Ms.Nayana,
This is a complicated case. You require an expert to handle this complex issue. We regret that we might not be able to comment on this subject.
ecopackindia team
Good article.
Appreciate your service.
I’d like to know the list of dcouments we should ask for.
Dear Mr.Sridhar,
Please check the blog, the posting contains the list of documents required. But not all properties need that vast list of documents. In many cases, only few important documents are available.
bye
mc
Sir, My wife has a site in north Bangalore. The khata papers are in order. I would like some authority to make proper measurements and authorize us to take charge of the plot for further development. Can you please advise?
Dear Mr.Nagaraj,
Thanks.
Please be specific. Please answer these queries. Is it a vacant site? Do you hold all the legal papers in your name(wife`s)? Where is it? What is the size? Why do you want it to be measured? Any issues? What kind of property is this? Gramthana? Revenue? Adverse possession? DC converted? BDA approved layout? BDA sites? BBMP Sites?
ecopackindia
Hi
I read your comments and liked all of the advices posted.
I am looking out for a gramathana site (so claimed by the seller) and seek clarification on the following aspects. I would be grateful to you if I get this information.
1. For a gramathana site, what are the documents to be verified?
2. How to know whether the site comes under yellow belt or green belt?
3. How to know who is the current owner of the site. Will Panchayat Khata reveal this information?
4. tax paid receipts – whether the owner of a gramathana site has to pay any tax? and if yes, to which body he/she has to pay that tax. Will i have to get these tax paid receipts from the seller?
5. If it is a gramathana site, then is it mandatory that it should be within 200 meters from the village panchayat? Otherwise, Panchayat has no right to issue any khata or any other approval (like house plan)?
6. Can the owner of a gramathana site take home loan with panchayat khata and Panchayat sanctioned house plan? If Panchayat Khata transfer is not enough, what are the documents that will needed to get a housing loan from a bank for a house to be constructed on that site in future? Who has to sanction the house plan?
7. Is it required to trace history of the site for past 43 years if it is a gramathana site?
8. Is it possible to verify whether a gramathana site is registered in the land survey department to check the real owner of the site and the real survey number that will be included in my sale deed?
9. In case I buy this site, how to get Panchayat khata transfer for the site?
10. The land owner is actually having a big piece of land out of which he is selling sites of various dimensions to various people. However, individual site dimension is not marked before selling. Once I tell him how much dimension I need, he accordingly specifies it in the sale deed. Then, how do I get my site partitioned from the entire piece of land. Do I need to apply for partition deed in the land survey department after it is registered at the sub-register office and sale deed is obtained?
11. If this site comes under BBMP limits later, what documents will BBMP look for to obtain BBMP Khata transfer? (so that I can ask these documents from the seller now itself)
I agree that these are too many questions. However, answers to these questions will help me decide whether constructing my dream home on this gramathana site is a wise decision.
Thank you,
Maruti
Dear Sir,
Please find the list of documents published in our blog.
For the rest of your query, you are advised to contact an advocate.
ecopackindia
interested to know – did you get answers to your queries – please share
NO
dear sir
my client has identified a property and has decided to proceed with the conversion of the said property. the property is situated in Ramagudinalli limits (near Varthur,whitefield) and has form 9 and 10.
the conversion process has been stalled by the DC because of no Podi bieng done how do we overcome this as the layout has other properties on it and all of whom are not ready to convert.
please advise as to how do i overcome this.
Dilip
Dear Mr.Dilip,
Your client can convert his property, provided phodi is done, if it is not, it is difficult.
ecopackindia
My name is meena, We are interested to buy a site, we got an offier that site is in Andrahalli bbmp limits site, he has given documents like agreement deed, EC for 15years and vamsharuksha details paper to consult with layer. it is a general catagari land. Is there any problem to buy, he is going to give tax paid and khatha after 2weeks.
Dear Ms.Meena,
It is difficult to pass any remarks without examining the documents in detail. Please consult your lawyer.
ecopackindia team
Hi
i need ur expert advise in carryin out some property verifications.can i meet you ppl.pls call me at 9019868352.i am oki to pay ur fees
! mithun
Dear Mr.Mithun,
Thanks.
Please find our profile for your reference.
Please do call us at our city office with prior intimation
G.V.Ramesh Babu & Associates
Chartered Accountants
No.62, II Floor, M.D.P.Market, Bettappa Lane,
Chowdeshwari Temple Street Cross,
Banglaore-560002. Behind Union Bank Of India, C.T.Street Branch.
ecopackindia team
hi, m having a agriculture land of 12 acres the problem s tat i wanna sale it for good cost,but it s under green belt so i cant ,can u plz suggest me hw to convert green land in to yellow belt,and were it take place we r the residence of ballarpur in chandrapur dist ( maharastra)……………………plzz help me its urgent
Dear Mr.Balaji,
I regret to state that we are not aware of conversion laws in the state of Maharastra. But, generally, green belt in rural areas can be converted, provided they do not fall under valley or stream or any sensitive zones. You have to check with your district administration and town planning department.
ecopackindia team.
Sir,
I have purchased a site at Yelenahalli, Bannerughatta Road and registered the sale deed in 2005. Now I want to construct a residential house. The site earlier was in Gram panchyat and now it is under BBMP. The village panchayat has given endosement that the sites are meant for residential use. BDA has also issued notification stating that these sites are not earmarked for any developmenal activity. Now, if I apply for plan approval to BBMP. whether I will get plan approval from BBMP? I have paid up to date tax regularly. Please advise me how to move?
Dear Mr.Kamath,
The property must be converted for residential use by the DC and not by the panchyat. Their endorsement might not be valid. The layout plan has to be approved by the BDA to give proper effect to the order.
Do you have proper katha from BBMP?
Tax payment does not mean that all the aforesaid statutory requirement waived.
If you have regular katha from BBMP, the plan will be sanctioned.
ecopackindia team
Hi ecopackindia team,
I’m interested in purchasing one site near K R Puram, I got the documents pertaining to the site and it is having CMC Khata. Owner said site earlier comes under CMC and now under BBMP. They dont have BBMP khata and approval plan.
Is it safe to purchase this site? I’m not sure whether banks provide loan if there is no BBMP Khata?
I ‘m really confused.. Pls advise.
-Amit
Dear Mr.Amit,
You are advised to obtain legal opinion.
ecopackindia team
Do you provide this service as well? what could be the charges?
Also is CMC Khata is sifficient enough to get the approval?
Dear Amit,
Yes. We do.
ecopackindia team
What are the documents required to get the legal opinion?
Dear Mr.Amit,
Please read the published article in this blog.
1). Mother Deed.
2). Sale Deed.
3). Katha Certificate.
4). Katha Extract.
5). Up To Date Tax paid Receipt and Encumbrance Certificate.
These are the most vital documents required. Based on the examination, any additional requirement, will be notified to you.
ecopackindia team
Hi ecopackindia team,
We chose to buy a constructed house from builder in akshaya nagar in ramamurthi nagar.
The layout has not been approved and not DC converted.
we went for legal opinion from a lawer regarding the proeprty documents(mother doc, sale deed, B katha, katha etract, building plan, EC,..). Got the feedback that the title is clear and we can go ahead but we should be aware of the fact that since its non converted we can get it regularised only after akrama sakrama.
Regarding loan builder/broker were telling that we can get the loan from IDBI since the neighbouring house at same stage got loan through same bank recently.
So we went ahead with a sale agreemnt paying 5 lakhs.
After that we went to th bank IDBI for loan and came to know that they have stopped processing loan for non-converted land from august 1st onwards.
Builder is suggesting that he can arrange loan in same bank through agent provided we are ready to pay 1% commisson.
Now we are in complete confusion whther to go ahead or back off and if there is any possibility of getting loan in any other bank directly, when akrama sakrama might come and so on…
Can you PLEASE provide your valuable suggestion .Thanks in advance.
Dear Mr.Sharmy,
Some banks are offering loans for this kind of properties too.
Akrama-Sakrama is delayed and there are many issues to be sorted out before its enactment.
ecopackindia team
Can you tell which banks are financing..
-Amit
Dear Mr.Amit,
Please try for yourself.
ecopackindia team
hi….
we are planning to buy an house in akshaya nagar… we have paid advance and taken the documents for review.as per our lawyer some of the documents are made fake.
our loan agent is tell Bkatha and plan is made only for loan approval purpose and these are not original.
we will be getting loan from some unrecognised bank….
now have to proceed further but in confusion sate. whether to go ahead or not.
please share your experince also.
and please help me ecopackindia team,
Hi,
Thanks for your quick response.can you please mention list of banks i can approach. It woulds really help. tahnks again
Regards
Sharmy
Dear Mr.Sharmy,
We regret to state that we do not have the list.
ecopackindia team
Mr Sharmy,
Let me know if you get to know any of the banks financing such properties.
-Amit
Dear Mr.Amit,
NO.
ecopackindia team
Dear G.V.Ramesh Babu
warm greetings of the day!!
i’m purchasing a porperty at halanayakanahalli varthur hobli in BBMP limits about 3 acres 24 guntas which has been converted duly way back in 2005 and has a BDA NOC through single window scheme at the same time it also states that the proposed land in in hi-tech zone, i would like to know if this comes under BBMP limits as the owner has no records of BBMP taxes paid but only gramtana taxes where as people in the area claim it is now under BBMP limits
please advice how do i get the correct details
regards
Raghvamsha
Dear Mr.Raghubamsha,
Please appoint an advocate and scrutinise all the documents. Do not depend on oral assurances.
ecopackindia team
Hello Team
I have purchased & registered a DC converted site in Kundanahalli village, The betterment charges are not paid and the previous owner was having a B-Khata & I have a taken one portion of the site. Now when i try to get a B-khata for the portion for which I purchased they are saying they will no issue another B-khata since it is already issued once. Can you guide me on this ? I am unable to proceed further on this with my construction plan etc due to this
Dear Mr.Ganesh,
B katha might not be bifurcated. You will have to regularise it.
ecopackindia team
Hi Team,
I am happy to see this forum which is helping people to get clarification of their doubts on properties.
I am planning to buy a site in attur layout and it is a vacant site(plot) and size is 30×40. For this site there is bank(IDBI) loan available and as per my enquiry this bank has provided loans for few sites in the same area. They have certified as clear titles and hassle free property. I have two queries ie., if the bank approves can we take it that this is hassel free and clear title properties and the second query is does this muneshwara layout of attur falls under BBMP limits also can i get list of documents that i should look during the sale deal of this property.
Regards,
Arun R
Dear Mr.Arun,
Please study All the relevant documents and take a decision.
ecopackindia team
Hi,
We have constructed house in gramtana site, 2yrs before.
we got the plan approval from panchayth. now in the same lay out some people got the notice from gove , saying that is the govet property.
we have already build the house.. in case if ours also is govet property then , what is the procedure .. to take that site leagly?
can u please help me?
Dear Ms.Madhura,
Please examine and scrutinise the documents, which you have. Check whether they are genuine or fake. Check whether the sale deed executed in your favour is subsisting or valid or not.
Consult an advocate and then initiate or reply to the notice. If it is a government land, though, you might have built the house, will be taken away. You can make a request to the government to allot the same site and agree to pay the price for it. There is no other recourse to this kind of activities.
ecopackindia team
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your quick response.
we have all the documents.
Sale deed , khata, 13 yrs mutation deed .. , mother deeds , tax paid receipt.
and we got the KEB connection also. we are paying the electricity bills from last 2 .5 yrs.
but house we have not registered so far.
Dear Ms.Madhura,
None of it will ever confer you the right, title and interest. If paying KEB bills, would ever give the right, then, everybody would have been the owners. Tax is paid for the service provided(road, sewage, street lights etc) and will not confer you any titles.
Consult the best advocate.
ecopackindia
For the benefit of others – can you please give indication of what area are you talking about?
It will help a great deal!
best regards,
–Satish
Dear Mr.Satish,
This publication contains the nature/status/type of properties under this head. It is useful for the buyers to know, what kind of properties are available for sale.
ecopackindia team
What are form 9 and 11? are these khata for the site?
somebody told me form 1 and 12 are khata documents and not 9 and 11.
I am confused. Please help!
Dear Mr.NS,
Form No.9 is the assessment for vacant site
Form No.11 is the assessment form for a site with construction
ecopackindia team
Hello sir,
I am planing to purchase site, Site is DC converted. Documents verified with advo he told title is clear and told me to check other litigation.
Earlier Idbi bank was funding for the sites in this layout, but now they stoped. And they giving reason Conversation is not proper seems.
My question how to verify the DC conversation is proper or not?
And if it is not Dc converted then it will br revenue site ? This is come under akram skaram?
Thank you in advance
Prakash
Dear Mr.Prakash,
When a colleague has forwarded an opinion, it is unethical to comment.
The seller would have given you a copy of it and check it.
ecopackindia team
wher to varify the dc conversation..from bda or bbmp? can you give me details so i can check.
Dear Mr.Prakash,
The issuing authority`s seal would have been affixed in the document.
ecopackindia team
seal is there and it showing district commissioner and signed by vishesha jilla adihikari… sign also having seal jill adikahari bangalore district
Dear Mr.Prakash,
Please check it in the concerned office.
ecopackindia team
Hello,
we are planning to take site in the NRI layout , Ramamurty nagar which is having B-Katha,
what are documents we have to looking , and any idea weather this area comes under any of the belts (Green, Yello , ect ) .and how safe to buy “B-Katha” sites.
Dear Ms.Spoorthi,
We do not have much details regarding this layout, hence, cannot pass any opinion or suggestion.
The list of document list is published in this blog and also in http://www.ecopackindia.blogpsot.com, but all the documents are not available and can scrutinise it with necessary documents.
ecopackindia team
A developer is offering Gramathana Land as sites in Maranahalli, Hennur Road, in Bagalur 5 kms before the Int Airport from Bangalore and about 3 kms from DPS School. He says that since there are 2 villages sourriunding the 41 acres of land it will not be acquired. What he is saying is it right or is he misleading the general public.
Kindly guide and with your valuable advise,
With best wishes,
GDC Rao
Dear Mr.Rao,
Please read the article on granthana sites published in this blog.
Gramthana means any property within periphery of 200 meters from the village boundary. We do not know the location, boundary and cannot make out anything out of the details provided by you.
Please read the Government Order:
It reads thus:
Rural Development and Panchayat Raj Secretariat
CIRCULAR No. RDP 124 BAC 90, Bangalore, dated 19th April, 1990
Sub: Comprehensive Development Plan of Bangalore—Re-vised Green Belt—Maintenance of—Revised instructions.
1. In Government Circular No. RDC 31 MIS 84, dated 20th August, 1984, it has been directed that the Village Panchayats located within the areas in the revised ‘Green Belt’ around Bangalore shall not issue licenses for any constructions or any building activities beyond their present ‘Gramathanas’ and 200 meters from the limits of these Gramathanas.
2. It has been decided by the Government that in order to avoid hapazard growth of village limits the village panchayats should be stopped from issuing licenses for construction in areas beyond the present Gramathana limits.
3. Now therefore in exercise of powers conferred by sub-section (3) of Section 54 of the Karnataka Village Panchayat and Local Board Act, 1959 and in supersession of the instructions issued earlier the Government of Karnataka, hereby direct that all the Village Panchayts concerned within the areas coming under the revised Green Belt as shown in the annexure appended hereto shall not issue licenses for construction of any building beyond their approved Gramathana limits and to hereafter restricted the exercise of such powers by the Village Panchayts/Mandal Panchayats to the licensing of construction of building only within the respective Gramathana limits and not upto 200 meters beyond these limits.
4. Suitable instructions may be issued to all concerned. A compliance report on the action taken in this behalf should be sent to Government by the Deputy Commissioner, Bangalore (Urban) District, Bangalore immediately.
]. RAGHAVENDRACHAR.
Desk Officer,Mandai Panchayat,
R.D. & P. Raj Department.
Hope, this explicit detail will satisfy your query.
ecopackindia team
Thanks ecopack team for my earlier question.
Builder has provided form 9 and 11 as Khata for the site but My lawyer is asking for form 1 and 12 as Khata from previous owner. When I contacted builder, he says forms 1 and 12 have been discontinued by Govt and he can only provide form 9 and 11. Who is correct here lawyer or builder?
I am confused, please help!
Dear Mr.ns,
Form No.9 and Form No.11 are being issued as of now.
Request your builder to obtain a letter stating(non issuance) the same from the concerned authorities.
ecopackindia team
Sir,
I have purchased a flat from SJR apartment builders Pvt ltd, located at Doddathogur grama panchayath limits,Electronic city 1st phase, Bangalore 560100 during january 2010 and got registerd in my name. Now I want to get the khatha transferred in name and pay the house tax.Under the citcumstance, kindly clarify:
1) Documents requred for transfer of katha
2) fee to be paid for transfer of hatha
3) the official empowered to fix the house tax
4) criteria for fixation of such tax
5) please let me also know, in case the said propety is acquired by BBMP/BDA, do I need to obtain fresh katha from BBMP/BDA
your kindly reply is very much appreciated sir,
truly yours
S.N.Prasad
Dear Mr.Prasad,
1). All the documents related to the property given by the builder.
2). It depends upon the stamp Duty.
3). The Revenue Officer of the jurisdiction.
4). Zone and type of the property.
5). We do not understand this query.
ecopackindia team
Hi Ramesh,
I have a site in Hebbal (Bhuvaneshwari Nagar), behind Godrej Apartment.
I am planning to construct house but not able to get housing loan as I am not able to get a construction plan approval from BBMP.
Could you please advice how do I go about this.
Also need your contact number so that I can discuss in personal too.
Thank you in advance
Dear Mr.Vivek,
What kind or type of property is this?
Do you have a katha?
You can visit us with prior intimation to our office at City.
G.V.Ramesh Babu and Associates,
Chartered Accountants.
No.62, II Floor, M.D.P.Market, Bettappa Lane,
Chowdeshwari Temple Street Cross,
Bangalore -560 002.
Near Raja Market, Avenue Road.
Please call Mr.M.Chandra Shekar at no.9342816151 before your visit. He handles BBMP/BDA/BMRDA issues.
ALL CONSULTATION AND SERVICES ARE CHARGEABLE.
ecopackindia team
Hi
We bought a plot recently about 2 months back in Bukkasagar village near Jignani (gate community, property registration was done in Bannergatta Sub registered office), Now our borker is telling Khata will be issued in form of 9 & 11 and it takes some more time but nothing to worry as the layout has been approved by BMRDA and all the betterment charges has been paid with proper conversion (LOA), the LOA information is availabe in BMRDA Approved layout section on their official website… we are little concerned about Khata… pl..let us kn0w incase of any problem.. around 10 – 15 houses have already been constructed.. if we now take the EC.. will it reflect our name in the extract.. or do we need to wait till KHATA is done on our name
Awaiting your reply
Regards
Raghu.
Dear Mr.Raghu,
The EC will reflect that there is a transaction in the said property and will stand in your name.
The property is not within the periphery of BBMP and is still under panchayat jurisdiction. There is no katha extract or katha certificate issued. It is Form No.9 and Form No.11.
BMRDA issual is also subject to many important conditions and is not concerned with any litigation on the titles of the property.
Hope the clarification have cleared your doubts.
ecoapckindia team
Dear Sir,
Thanks a lot… It is indeed a very good response to my query..it was an agricultural land before and with proper LOA it was converted for residential purpose by BMRDA in the year 2004. When we asked for EC.. we were told that EC is sufficient from conversion date….Do you feel we should have still taken EC for 43 years?.. after a proper Sale.. this was converted for residential perpose and with the approval from BMRDA the layout is formed… please help
Regards
Raghu
Dear Mr.Raghu,
We have no comments. The choice is yours. Generally we take a minimum of 15 years.
ecopackindia team
Thank you for your quick and prompt reply.
Regards
Raghu
hi,
i m planning to buy a site+home(newly constructed) in shantilayout/TC palya mainroad.Its not having DC conversion/no NOC from BDA. But it has khata and the latest tax paid,there are other homes already built in the same survey.I tried EC for 22 years and its on buyer name only.
Please advice me what is RTC document, what is Khata extract which IDBI bank is expecting to give me a loan.
raakesh
Dear Mr.Raakesh,
Please read our blogs for RTC and the extract is to be submitted by the seller.
ecopackindia team
hi, thanks for quick reply
i understand what is RTC now after go through the blog,
Q1:but can u tel me will i get it from subregistrar office/taluk office, i am confused.
also,
Q2:please tel me will i go for purchase/homeloan with the documents
i have(no DC conversion, no NOC from BDA),as site comes into BBMP limits.
1)sale deed
2)mother deed
3)EC for 22 years(22years of EC is enough?)
4)building plan and its approval
5)khata extract(which i yet to collect)
6)tax paid latest
7)RTC i yet to apply/collect
if not what else generally banks will expect on behalf of property for homeloan.
please advice.
raakesh
Dear Mr.Rakesh,
Please contact an advocate for such specific queries.
ecopackindia team
do u have any office/any reference of the lawyer in around marthahalli/whitefield/krpuram/indiranagar??
Dear Mr.Rakesh,
we have office at C.T.Street, Near Avenue Road and at residence cum office at BSK III Stage and our Senior Chartered Accountant at Vijaya nagar.
ecopackindia team
Sir,
I am planning to take a site at Mandur, East Bangalore,all titles are ready with DC converson of land except layout approval fom Hoskote palnning authoity (HPA) but it is apprroved from panchayat, Mandur.
But when HPA given preliminary approval for 33 Guntha should be for residential and 5 guntha for park and gaden.
But developer has left 2 gunthas for park and play ground and layout is not approved by HPA. But approved by Panchayat.
How to proceed and tackel the developer to get such approval?
Kindly guide and suggest.
Dear Mr.Anupam,
The HPA will not approve the layout, unless the builder complies and conform with the conditions laid down. Do not buy it.
ecopackindia
I have paid all the taxes for my appartment Ittina AKKALA ,Near Hoody Circle .when paying these , The BBMP people told me about the Katha Services and asked me to pay 2500 For B Katha ? It is the Katha Fees? What is B Katha Exactlly !
Dear Mr.Sukesh,
It is B form and not B katha.
We do not understand the fee paid by you.
Payment of taxes does not confer you the ownership. You pay the taxes to avail the facilities.
It is a form issued based on the sale deed copy containing the schedule.
ecopackindia team
Hi Team,
I am willing to buy a gramtana site. I would like to know will the bank loan is available to buy sites?
Thanks in advance
Dear Ms.Anupama,
Yes. (Genuine GT sites)
ecopackindia team
Hi
good day to you team.
I have recently bought 1200sqft plot in ramamurthy nagar. What are the things to be done now? like paying tax etc. Is it must get a B-form in my name also ? whether BBMP will collect betterment charges for this site ?
Dear Mr.Bilu,
If the property is registered so recently, the taxes would have been paid up to date. Check your receipt of the tax. The payment of improvement charges depend upon the nature of the property.
ecopackindia team
Hi ecopackindia team,
I have identified one layout to purchase one plot(1400sqft),but it has panchayat approval,The layout is converted for resindential type by local tahasidar. But there is no BBMP or BMRDA approval and no noc from BDA and it dod not comes under CMS also, Please advise can i go further to purchase the site or not.
Thanks
Yash
Dear Sir,
Examine the documents thoroughly with the help of an advocate. Based on the opinion, you can decide.
ecopackindia team
Hi I am planning to purchase a site (with house being built by the builder). The builder has BBMP A khatha and all betterment charges paid till date. When I approached SBI for bank loan, they denied saying they can’t process as they don’t have the DC conversion document. When checked with builder, he is telling is it safe as the A-Khata and betterment charges are there.Also the plan for the layout is approved by BBMP. The site is in Ramamurthy nagar.
I am in dilemma, should i proceed or not? (Any help in this regard would be helpful.
Thanks,
Ajay
Dear Mr.Ajay,
Please scrutinise the documents with an experienced legal porfessional to arrive at a proper decision. Do not hurry.
ecopackindia team
hi,
my father has bought a site from his own money in 1987, a site mesuring 3250 sqft, gramtana, my father passed away in 2005 , my brother got gift deed from my mother for this 3250 sqft site in 2006 and he has paid the tax for the vacant land, and now he is building house, since the site belong to my father , i have equall rights in the sites, but how can i clam the site now, what is the procudure to claim the site , my brother is now willing to share the site with me , i consider your suggest is very valuable to me .
Dear Mr.Venu,
If whatever is stated is true, you have a right and can claim it. Please approach the best advocate with all the information and available documents to substantiate your claim.
ecopackindia team
Hi Ecopackindia team,
I have visited a site in halanayakanhalli (Sarjapur road –> WIpro corporate office –> First right after wipro corp office ) which is a revenue site which is in the centre of halanayakanahalli after green villas. Its next to a temple in the village.
The broker was informing that it will be soon DC converted. Can i go ahead and buy the site.
1) what are the chances that BDA might acquire these sites because it is revenue site.
2) Is it possible to get loans.
Thanks in advance
Vijay
8105841718
Dear Sir,
We cannot comment on BDA acquisition proceedings. Most of the state owned banks might not finance such properties.
ecopackindia team
Dear Sir
We are in the final stage of registering a site in a BDA approved private layout in Doddabetahalli Village Yelahanka. The land where the layout was formed is DC converted but was notified for acquisition by BDA. However later a denotification was issued for these select survey numbers where this layout falls through an order by Under Secretary Govt of Kar. The same though was approved by SBI and Deutsche Bank for loan purposes, by merely seeing this blog I was informed enough to personally go to BDA and check the authenticity of the documents produced by the developer. Even the site release order by BDA also was checked. The EC for the particular site offered were also checked till date and the name of the developer who is holding a registered GPA for the same is appearing. Can you kindly guide before going for registration of the site any other details needs to be checked. Also what all things needs to be done after the registration proceedings are over.
Dear Mr.Shreenath,
First of all, Many thanks for your action. The procedures followed by you is very specific, clear and legal. If every buyer follows it religiously, then the cheats would not get an opportunity.
Every aspect appear to be fine and check the schedule and the boundaries. If possible, measure the extent of the site, which is being bought. You can apply for the transfer of katha, after one week with all necessary documents and get it transferred. That completes the entire process of documentation and purchase.
Best Wishes,
M.Chandra Shekar.
Hi Shreenath,
If you don’t mind, could you please provide more details on these sites (price per sq ft and location/landmark)? I am also looking out to purchase such a clear title site. You may reply on maruti_k@yahoo.com.
Thanks in advance,
Maruti
Thanks a lot once again for your valuable advice.
Hi,
Just today, I got the B-Khata(it says Form-B property register) issued by the BBMP (official charges of Rs 100) for my site. I plan to start the construction on my site. For that I am getting confusing information from various sources and I request your kind clarifications on the same.
1) I read in many forums including this one that some banks(like LICHFL, IDBI and
Axis) provide loan for building construction on sites with B-Khata. However I heard from BBMP people that plan sanction can not be obtained using B-Khata. Does that mean that these banks issue construction loans without approved plan?. Could you please clarify this?
2) My site was part of Bommanahalli CMC and now part of BBMP. My site is DC converted site with BDA NOC and now I have the B-Khata. I also have the sale deed,
EC, have paid all property taxes till date. Given this,
a) will BBMP approve the plan
b) Will any bank approve construction loan
c) What are the alternatives for me to get a loan if a) or b) is not possible.
Thanks a lot for your valuable advice
Regards,
Selva
Dear Selva,
The Improvement charges had to be paid, as and when it is announced within two months. Once, it is paid, katha will be issued. Based on that you can get your building plan sanctioned. All the banks must sanction the home loan, if you are eligible with good credit rating with katha.
There is no other short cut. There are no alternatives. But there are illegal ways to get loans by misrepresentation.
Best Wishes,
ecopackindia team
Hi,
Thanks for your inputs. I have been waiting for last several years for this Khata issue to be resolved by BBMP, but without much progress. During this period all my neighbors have built their houses by bribing the BBMP guys. But I didn’t want to take risks and hence still waiting. Do you know when BBMP is likely to start the collection of betterment charges as I really want to begin the house construction?.
Thanks,
Selva
Regards,
Selva
Dear Mr.Selva,
When you are in rome, be a roman.
Please read the blog about it.
ecopackindia team
Please give me the link to get the posting contains the list of documents required. I do not find in the blog. I am likely to purchase a Residential plot with B Katha. I want to check for the documents before I rise any query here. Thank U in advance.
Dear Ms.Vilasini,
Please visit: http://www.ecopackindia.blogspot.com.
The list is available.
ecopackindia team
Thank u for response. I would like to know the chances/ways to get RTC. This is requested along with B-Khatha. Can you pls assist in the process.
Sir,
I explored to buy a flat being built by a private builder near C.V. Raman Nagar. The builder has acquired land in two adjacent pieces with clear titles, as far as I could make out. Upon examning land documents, I found that there is a road (width not mentioned in BBMP map attached to land papers) mentioned which comes in the middle of these two pieces of land. The builder said, this road is ‘kalibata’ meaning walkway. He also says that this walkway is not known to anyone and can not be used by public. He plans to construct some amenities on this ‘road’. There will not be any wall between this road and flats bing constructed in the compound. Can you please give your opinion on whether such ‘kalibata’ roads can be claimed by public or by civic authoities for public use, either now or later?
regards
Vin
Dear Sir,
We regret to pass any comment on this issue.You have diagnosed the issue and have the right answer, but you want to make sure of it.
ecopackindia team
Sir,
Thank you for your response. Although I could not guess where is my answer !
regards
vin
Dear Sir,
It is Government Property, means public property and no body has any right to restrict the citizens from using it. A leading builder(politically powerful), built a portion of residential and commercial complex on raja kaluve, which might be demilished soon or the court will initiate action or the lokayukta will take action.
ecopackindia team
Dear Sir,
Your apprehensions appears to be genuine. It is a Government property-means all the citizens have the right to use it.
ecopackindia team
Ecopack team,
I greatly appreciate your concise reply to my query.
Thanks a lot !
vin
I paid my property tax in July ’10 and I was given the manual bill with seal (from BBMP office). The amount is not yet debited from my account nor did they give me the printed bill yet. Is there something fishy here?
Dear Krishna,
Please check with the Revenue Inspector of your jurisdiction with the receipt, immediately, without any delay. Please submit a letter along with the details to the ARO.
ecoapckindia team
Hi
i am planning to buy a BBMP B-katha site near marathahalli, let me know is this safe..
Dear Mr.Murthy,
Please consult an advocate for opinion.
ecopackindia team
Dear Sir,
I am planing to take site in Max Worth Realty Developers layout but the developer is telling it was DC converted but we can not get the loans from bank (Bank will not give loan for the site).
Pls suggest me i need to proceed further or not.
Thanks and Regards
Amith.D.Deshpande
9964981161
Dear Sir,
We cannot comment on such issues. It is your choice.
ecopackindia team
Hi Sir,
We have decided to buy BBMP site(B khata) and all the documents are clear. But IDBI bank refuses to give loan for B Khata as betterment is not settled. Is there any option we can opt for so that in future it can’t be risky.
Thanks
Dear Sir,
As you are aware that the documents are clear by your own admission, will the question of risk arise?
ecopackindia team
Yes, but bank person is saying that if betterment is not paid then in future the house plan will not be approved.. So not getting what to do?
Dear Sir,
How did you arrive at the conclusion that the titles are clear, when (bankperson) he says you do not get some approvals?
Please avail professional guidance in this regard.
ecopackindia team
Sir-
I have b-khata (B-form) with all main docs of property, with being availed a construction loan and completed the construction with temporary building plan for loan purpose. In future can i get Build Plan sanctioned after paying Betterment charges? for the current building? Or i should bribe to get this? Please advise
Girish
Dear Sir,
Wait till the implementation of Akrama-Sakrama.
ecopackindia team
Girish/ecopack,
My site also has the B form khata with all other docs proper. I am trying to find ways to get the loan for my site. You say that you have got temporary plan sanctioned using B form khata and also got the loan using this. Could you tell me which bank(s) are providing loans as I want to go for the loan for construction.
Thanks in advance
-Selva
Hi
I have a question. My site which was under panchayat now is under BBMP. I have a khatha issued by panchayat and i want a BBMP Khatha. My site is DC converted and all developments like Tar Road, Water connection to each plot, Sanitary connection to each plot and Steet electricity has been done by the developer. My question is should i pay betterment charges to BBMP ? Is yes where should i pay ??
Dear Sir,
It is your decision. There is no compulsion.
It will be notified in the newspapers by BBMP.
ecopackindia team
When all the developments are given by developer if i apply for BBMP khatha iam i eligible to get one now with out paying btterment charges ??
Dear sir,
Please contact your developer the concerned department and seek a clarification.
ecopackindia team
Hi ,
I am looking for a site (1200-1500) in south banglore. Pls help me with some good project that you are aware of.
Thanks
Sudeesh
Dear Mr.Sudeesh,
As of now, we do not have any offers from sellers. As and when, we get it, we shall intimate the same to you.
Please buy only BDA/BMRDA/KHB or Housing Society sites(from the allottees-clear titles) or old BBMP sites(With Clear Katha)and due take diligent care and obtain legal clearance, before the registration. Please buy only DC Converted and BDA/BMRDA approved layout sites with clear titles.
Take Care.
ecopackindia team